{"id":249,"date":"2003-03-21T10:11:50","date_gmt":"2003-03-21T15:11:50","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=249"},"modified":"2003-03-21T10:11:50","modified_gmt":"2003-03-21T15:11:50","slug":"jens-daily-fisking","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/grace-filled.net\/?p=249","title":{"rendered":"Jen&#8217;s Daily Fisking"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.avoidingevil.com\/blog\/archives\/000913.htm#000913\">Some Thoughts on Democrats and Liberals and the War Protesting Going On<\/a><\/p>\n<p>My response:<br \/>\n<i><b>Re: your first paragraph: What we&#8217;re doing is also against the charter of the U.N., which governs disputes between nations. I see no reason why we shouldn&#8217;t be at war if all diplomatic efforts had been exhausted. However&#8230; they hadn&#8217;t. I have yet to see the Iraqis meet with *anyone* on this issue in talks. There&#8217;s also the fact that <a href=\"http:\/\/saltyvicar.blogspot.com\/2003_03_01_saltyvicar_archive.html#200012406\">*none* of our tips to the weapons inspectors paid off<\/a>, so unless Bush wants to argue human rights (which he really hasn&#8217;t mentioned in depth yet and this scares me because it *is* compelling &#8212; he just hasn&#8217;t looked at it yet), we have no legitimate reason for being over there.<\/p>\n<p>Re: your comment that protestors are a bunch of psychos: Rush Limbaugh isn&#8217;t the best source to quote because he has an agenda. (Stick to news sites, not talking heads whose bark is bigger than their bite.) I&#8217;m protesting this war and I don&#8217;t support Saddam in the least. This ain&#8217;t a black and white issue.<\/p>\n<p>Re; Rachel Corrie: Israel has committed quite a few human rights atrocities and it irritates me how people automatically assume that all Palestinians are Muslim fundamentalists when quite a few are Christians. (Tears down that &#8220;us&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221; argument real fast, doesn&#8217;t it?) I applaud Rachel for standing up for what she believes in because she believed that the Israelis were wrong. *I* believe that the Israelis were wrong &#8212; I had classes on this conflict alone as a Religious Studies major in college.  I&#8217;ve looked at both sides of the issue and both sides have made some big mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>And for the record, I am a Democrat and a &#8220;liberal&#8221; (though back home I&#8217;m a &#8220;conservative&#8221; &#8212; interesting how labels shift depending on the company one keeps). I am morally certain, I don&#8217;t hate conservatism, I think capitalism has problems but we can work with them, I don&#8217;t hate people who have a clear idea of right and wrong, and I trust people who are confident in their faith and opinions&#8230; because I am one. I do, however, dislike those who generalize about others based on the rantings of people like Limbaugh, O&#8217;Reilly, Hannity, and their leftist equivalents.<\/p>\n<p>So&#8230; I think I&#8217;ll echo <a href=\"http:\/\/sonafide.com\">Drina<\/a>: quite a bit of unnecessary hostility going on here against Democrats and liberals. And you complain that I&#8217;m a little hostile toward Bush?<\/b><\/i><\/p>\n<p>At least he didn&#8217;t say &#8220;they hate us because we&#8217;re free&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Some Thoughts on Democrats and Liberals and the War Protesting Going On My response: Re: your first paragraph: What we&#8217;re doing is also against the charter of the U.N., which governs disputes between nations. 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